The yelling that Mr. Tinderholt did asked what about city employees in the streets? I stated over his screaming that I would address that issue. I told him that Arlington is a "Home Rule City" and that we had the right to make ordinances and laws that did not violate state statutes. I continued that the Firemen have an exception signed by Govenor Perry that allows them access. Tinderholt screemed again that "it's a loophole." "You are passing this on a loophole," and then removed himself before police could arrest him. He then left, followed by minions from the Open Carry group, just like he had planned. This is what followed on facebook:
- Conversation started Wednesday
Tony Tinderholt
Charlie, you and I can continue to be disrespectful to one another or we can try to do what is right for the people of our city. I am a far right Conservative Republican and I represent a very Conservative constituency. I want to work together. ..but if this isn't possible, I can deal with that as well. Regardless of what you want, I will be the district 94 representative and I feel that it's important for us to work hand in hand to support Arlington.- Tony Tinderholt
I respectfully apologize for getting frustrated; howeber, the city is skirting a very fine line that will most likely result in a court case that neither of us wants.Consider meeting with the mayor and I Monday. I've had a meeting scheduled with him for over a month...it's a lunch meetingThanks!And again..mi apologize for stepping on you while you were talking at the meeting! Let's agree to disagree...but move forward with Arlington residents in mind.Oops...I apologize....phone typing is not my best skill - Thursday
Charlie Parker
FacebookFirst off let me state that I have already dealt with this issue on another string. When have I been disrespectful to YOU? I am a conservative also, but I am not a not a drama queen. It was apparent and remains apparent to me that you are not in control of your actions. Therefore I and I'm sure other Council members will keep you at a distance. You've shown us your true colors Mr. Tinderholt. I really don't care if you become King of Texas, I don't have to work with you and I won't. If I was the Mayor I would cancel lunch. Good luck in the election, bring on the lawsuit.- Tony Tinderholt
I also told him that nobody wants an expensive lawsuit that I...As a taxpayer....will have to pay for...and that their illegal implementation of this ordinance will cause someone to surely file a lawsuitNice response when it's taxpayer dollars for the lawsuit... - Tony Tinderholt
The word Conservative is used far too often these days when it's only a few of us that actually fit the bill. - Tony Tinderholt
Texas has what is called a preemption law that does not allow any governing body below the state legislature to enact arms control laws. Ordinances are very expensive - those tax $s could be better spent right now when budgets are tight. But i am sure that using tax $ for a second lawsuit doesnt bother you either! - Thursday
- Charlie Parker
FacebookMr. Tinderholt the freedom of speech that I was speaking of was the freedom that you enjoyed. Also the same freedom that you denied me. That is the freedom to address the city council and state an opinion. Mr. Leblanc denied that opportunity with his vote. He was the only one that did. Standing in the street is an apple compared to that orange, so please don't let your little gang try to compare the two events. If you do then you are only demonstrating the lack of cerebral cortex that is rampant in your constituents. Don't make that mistake. The comment about my wife is only evidence of the lack of mental capacity within your gang. The spineless attempt to devalue a marriage of 39 years, of which I'm sure YOU can appreciate, is a desperate attempt broken logic and despicable behavior. This has been demonstrated throughout your treatment of our police officers, city council, and now my family. If you continue to saddle up with these vermin, your political future may be very short. I have only heard disparaging remarks about your actions last Tuesday. You have some serious damage control to accomplish. - Tony Tinderholt
First of all...This is NOT my gang. I am not affiliated with them. I support the constitution and you and the city council are trampling on it. That's all...and i agree....no wives....that is sad.I only got involved on behalf of the police department to keep this group from antagonistic behavior....and it worked a little - Tony Tinderholt
Actually. ..amongst TRUE Conservatives...they applauded Tuesday night. Your group that you hear from are establishment people who don't like it when someone stands up for the people...they want the government to have MORE power.Remember, this is not my groupYour career is actually at risk Charlie. We already have 3 solid people lined up to tackle you next time. Trust that they will be fully financed! I do agree that your Family is absolutely off limits and that is beyond disrespectful. - Friday
- Charlie Parker
Good I beat 7 good men to get here. This is not a career. I represent the citizens of North Arlington because I want too.
As you can see for yourself this is not the type of person that we should send to Austin to represent us.
Here is another bit of wisdom.
Here is another bit of wisdom.
Tony Tinderholt I was not there last night in support of open carry or their group. I was there to try and stop 1st ammendment rights from being stolen. Not a very intelligent way to talk about a constituent as an elected official Mr. Parker. Remember, I am still a constituent as is the man you chastised in the meeting. I was thoroughly DISGUSTED when you...A representative of the people, told another person in the meeting that "this is a one way discussion". Who says that type of thing to constituents?
The PEOPLE will hold you accountable for allowing government employees to continue to hand out or collect materials on the street while the public is not allowed. If this were a safety issue, you would have petitioned the state to fix the loophole at the same time. This is the type of governing that steals rights from citizens. I agree that what the Fire Department does is a great thing and that you will play the "that is state law" card. I am confident that you will still allow it to happen.
As for your comments concerning Diane Patrick; you are unhappy that you have someone that will tell the truth and stand up to you for citizens rights versus someone that will do exactly what you want. People like you are the problem. The ESTABLISHMENT never likes it when people know the truth or when someone stands up to you. I do not represent the City Council I represent the constituents of the city of Arlington Texas district 94 . I will be with you when it's right and oppose you when it's not.
Note that I removed myself from your circus of a meeting that doesn't listen to the people whom they are supposed to represent. Yes, you pretend to listen to 2 minutes from each person, but your consistent votes against what you here is apparent.
Also, I encourage you to watch the video where the Mayor stated toward the end that he didn't remove anyone. Rest assured Mr. Parker, we will ENSURE that you run OPPOSED next time with FULL financial backing from all of our affiliated organizations. We need to ensure that people like you are stopped from serving in higher positions. We need someone that is respectful to constituents and a True SERVANT to we the people.
The PEOPLE will hold you accountable for allowing government employees to continue to hand out or collect materials on the street while the public is not allowed. If this were a safety issue, you would have petitioned the state to fix the loophole at the same time. This is the type of governing that steals rights from citizens. I agree that what the Fire Department does is a great thing and that you will play the "that is state law" card. I am confident that you will still allow it to happen.
As for your comments concerning Diane Patrick; you are unhappy that you have someone that will tell the truth and stand up to you for citizens rights versus someone that will do exactly what you want. People like you are the problem. The ESTABLISHMENT never likes it when people know the truth or when someone stands up to you. I do not represent the City Council I represent the constituents of the city of Arlington Texas district 94 . I will be with you when it's right and oppose you when it's not.
Note that I removed myself from your circus of a meeting that doesn't listen to the people whom they are supposed to represent. Yes, you pretend to listen to 2 minutes from each person, but your consistent votes against what you here is apparent.
Also, I encourage you to watch the video where the Mayor stated toward the end that he didn't remove anyone. Rest assured Mr. Parker, we will ENSURE that you run OPPOSED next time with FULL financial backing from all of our affiliated organizations. We need to ensure that people like you are stopped from serving in higher positions. We need someone that is respectful to constituents and a True SERVANT to we the people.
If you watch the tape of the meeting Tuesday evening I never say that this is a one way conversation. Instead I said that, "I guess freedom of speech only goes one way around here." Referring to the fact that Council listened to their time at the microphone and they would not let me speak. The bottom line is Tinderholt has alienated the City of Arlington from any cooperative effort, in an effort to side with Open Carry Texas. Actions speak much louder than words. The above comments and his actions on Tuesday night tell me everything I need to know about this guy. Don't take my word for it. Watch the video, then vote for Cole for the 94th Representative of the great state of Texas.
I have followed this closely and you have done about as well as you could have under the circumstances.
ReplyDeleteLonnie I want to say thank you for taking the stand that you did against this gang. My respect for you as a citizen and gun owner is tremendous. You took a stance. They are not your average gun owners, but in any catagory there are extremes. These peoople are extremists, and shouldn't be included with respectable gun owners. Simply put they have challenged the city. They city has responded to their challenge and now it is time to stop the name calling and obey the law. Thanks again, and oh by the way, did you know that the guy who owns Dillon reloading equipment is an old TWA pilot?
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to say thank you to all who have written in to support my position against this gang in our city. They are truly extreme radicals in support of Open Carry. At some point I will publish my views on open carry, but not at this point. For now simply let me know that you support me by going to the polls and voting for me, even though I am not opposed. I can take the slurs and name calling as long as I know that I have the support of my constituents. So since guns are banned from Council Chambers, there is no threat to your freedom of speech. Do not be intimidated your free speech has been preserved. Next we will perserve you right to drive your car without beind accosted at a signal light.
ReplyDeleteThis is a case where poor judgment in the exercise of rights as led rules that should have never been required in the first place. All these years, we have never needed an ordinance saying you can't bring a gun to a council meeting because everyone has been reasonable about this for so long. The irony with these folks is that they actually bring about additional gun restrictions that should not be required but for the way they have chosen to exercise their rights. When I see package labeling stating painfully obvious things to reduce liability, it reminds me of folks like this. I do not think there should be additional restrictions for carrying long guns in Texas, but the videos these folks put out tend to make a case for why there should be more restrictions. I get the Blue Press magazine each month. I knew Mike Dillon had been an airline pilot, but did not know which airline. Of course, I do not pay as close attention to such things as I am sure you would.
ReplyDeleteLonnie you are so right and said very well. When people in other cities comment about this issue they say, "you're kidding right? It's common sense not to bring a rifle or shotgun to a City Council meeting."
DeleteI have said in the past that I am a gun advocate, but there is no way I would ever saddle up with these guys.
Sounds like you can count on this being the last election you'll run unopposed.
ReplyDeleteBob I will gladly run against anyone. My record stands on its own. I am twice retired and have devoted my time as if it were a real job. All my money goes to the Fisher House to help verterans and their families. You can't imagine the amount of afformation that I have received in the last 5 days. It energizes me to move forward against this gang. We aren't done yet.
DeleteThis appears to be a classic case of too much government regulation. Why the City of Arlington would be spending time to vote on this. Don't they have bigger fish to fry?? I have personally served with Tony in the Army for more than ten years. I don't always agree with him but I assure you he is not part of a "gang". I do find it quite interesting that a politician would label a group of individuals a "gang" when they are bringing issues to them that they would like to resolve. You do have to work with Tony since he is a resident of Arlington, if you don't think you should then maybe you should step down because I do believe that is you job. Please correct me if I'm wrong. As far as your freedom of speech being violated...You have no clue as to what that's about until you have been in the countries I have you will never fully understand. Last but not least I find it interesting that you brought up the fact that all your money goes to the fisher house. Why you brought that up in my opinion is nothing more than a weak attempt so show you patriotism. How much to you really give? Does it assist you in your annual taxes?? See my friend Tony Tinderholt is not your typical rich politician; he is a retired Soldier who enjoys serving to help others. I would love to meet with you for lunch sometime to discuss my thoughts with you!
ReplyDeleteMr. Lamont, you are right that we have bigger fish to fry. But when a gang wants to bring AR's or pop guns to Council meetings they deserve an answer. They got it. Mr. Tinderholt went out of his way to align himself with this gang. I didn't put him there. He broke the law and disrupted a public meeting of the Council all by himself, in an effort to grandstand in front of them. Mr. Tinderholt has no one to blame but himself.
ReplyDeleteIf you do your homework you will know that I have been all over the world, Asia, Middle East and Europe. I have a good working knowledge of other countries, and there is no place like the USA. That being said, our foundation is being attacked from within. Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, now it is challenged. Guns in governmental meetings, really? Now we have to legislate common sense. Why? Because it isn't common any more.
I'm sorry but working with Mr. Tinderholt because he is a citizen is not my job. I have listened to him and he has throwen a tantrum when it was my turn to voice an opinion. He and I are done. Actions vs. words. I cannot speak for the rest of the Council but I have 3 responsibilities to the citizens of this city.
1. Keep citizens safe
2. Spend their taxes as if it were my money
3. Consider the best use of the land within the city
I am not elected to smooth the feathers of people who can't control their actions. That would be therapy. See a psychiatrist!
It is obvious that you know nothing about me. I washed airplanes for flight time in high school. 20 yrs in the Navy flying off carriers. 32 years in the airline industry as a Captain for TWA/American. If I am considered rich then it is because my wife and I worked our fanny's off to get there. If Mr. Tinderholt is a retired soldier then I am a retired sailor. The difference is obvious and you can see it on the video that was posted by Mr. Tinderholt. You will see me remark on a question on the First Amendment. The difference is that I treat the Council and the process with respect and dignity. And I got my point across. Tinderholt simply showed his inability to control himself.
Now let's deal with the last question of finances. I was challenged by OCT people of squandering their taxes on my city wages. My response was that I send them to Fisher House. I sent $2,700 last year. As a retiree I sent $10,000 to charities. Of course none of this is any of your business. I only bring it up because again, someone has asked for it. I have nothing to hide. I live a good honest life and stand up for the majority of citizens in Arlington. They seem to be satisfied, with my conservative values and representation, but you can't please everyone. If you want to meet with me call my secretary Alex and we will put it on the schedule. You seem like a sensible guy, I deal with gangs and gang members on a more public level.